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frags
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 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: Is Black/Death Metal A threat to Our Mental Security? |
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Im not going to comment much about this. Here's the article that asks this question.
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Dr. Azly Rahman
http://azlyrahman-illuminations.blogspot.co
[The incident at the PR gathering I saw on video prompt me to invite all of you for a dialogue. I am still searching for answer to the culture of underground music in Malaysia. Below is my proposition, written some time ago, for us to begin the discussion.]
I thought that after The Rolling Stones, rock and roll will no longer evolve to its most "dangerous" form. I was wrong. Listen to these two pieces of music here and here.
Can you understand the lyrics and figure out where the harmony? What images come to your mind?
Now, read the entry below:
"The black metal scene gained some unsought mass media attention in 1991 when Mayhem's frontman Dead (left) committed suicide by a shotgun blast to his head. His note simply read "Excuse all the blood". The ammunition was supplied by Varg Vikernes.
"His body was discovered by Aarseth who, instead of calling the police, ran to a nearby convenience store and bought a disposable camera which he used to photograph the corpse for a future Mayhem album cover (Dawn of the Black Hearts). Apocryphal reports also claim that he then took some pieces of Dead's splattered brains and made a stew out of them and/or members of the band took bone fragments from their friend's skull and made necklaces out of them."
So reads two paragraphs from Wikipedia, on the beginning of Death Metal music.
Is our youth listening to more "mentally dangerous" music, such as Death Metal and Black Metal? Are their brains being fried by the fast, rhythmic, unsophisticated music with lyrics that glorify death, depression, and destruction? Who are its fans and fanatics? Why is this para-demonic music becoming a paralysis to our youth culture?
Educators, parents, and policymakers � why is our youth taking this dangerous path to freedom and creativity?
Threat to mental security?
Let us talk about the issue of alternative music in Malaysia � of Death/Black Metal and its threat to mental security. How could the Metallist go to the masjid, the Hindu temple, the Christian church, the Buddhist wat, or the Sikh temple and focus on the ultimate reality when their consciousness is already abducted and imprisoned by demonic forces?
Without playing any Death/Black Metal CD backwards, we can clearly analyse the messages behind the music. We need to understand the language that shapes this genre.
Death/Black Metal fans do not actually need to do "devil worship" � they are already possessed by terminologies that glorify the devil and the demonic. There is hope for them to repent and to "de-evolve" into ethical human beings with real human consciousness.
In the process of glorifying the sight, sound, and symbolism of the demonic, these predominantly Malay youth do not realise that they are also being bought by the international record companies that sell cultural junk to these youth who do not understand not only meanings in the lyrics but also the names of the bands. Poor command of the English language will also facilitate this mentally-fatal misunderstanding. They simply do not have any idea what the language of their music means, let alone the neuro-linguistic impacts on their personalities.
But first, let me do a quick linguistic analysis to prove that these lovers of demonic music are actually glorifying unholy death instead of celebrating the beauty of life. Educators well-versed in the translation can do similarly with other examples.
Look at these words that chronicle the development of this brand of music of the demons. It does not take a Noam Chomsky or a Jacques Lacan fan to analyse the nature of language that our youth, especially the Malays, are possessing themselves with and are loving the act and the art of unsophisticated music and do not add value to even the history of rock and roll.
Below are some of the names of Western Death Metal bands that our Malaysian fans are listening to and perhaps worshiping. I have provided a loose translation to each.
Atheist = Si Ateis/Manusia Yang Tak Percaya Keujudan Illahi
Autopsy = Pembedahan Keatas Si Mati
Carcass = Bangkai Binatang
Death = Kematian
Entombed = Di Batu-Nisan kan
Morbid Angel = Si Malaikat Jahanam
Napalm Death = Kematian di sebabkan Bom Napalm (di gunakan di Perang Vietnam)
Obituary = Notis Kematian di Akhbar
Possessed = Di Rasuk
Suffocation = Tercekik Lalu Mati Lemas
Source: Wikipedia
Below are some of the names of Black Metal groups. I invite Malaysian linguists to help check the accuracy of translated words below to be read to the fans of these new genre of "creatively nihilistic" music.
Venom = Bisa
Hellhammer = Penukul Neraka
Bulldozer = Bulldozer
Mayhem = Keganasan dan Kehancuran
Darkthrone = Singahsana Kegelapan
Enslaved = Di Perhambakan
Immortal= Tanpa Kematian
You can explore more of these names in this site. In addition to the glorification of the demonic aspect of humanity and the naming of groups based on such pride, some of the titles in the track of a popular groups elaborate the nature of anti-humanity. Lyrics from an album by the group Masacra (translated as Pembunuhan Kejam yang Berleluasa), for example, provide such imagery:
1. Enjoy the Violence
2. Ultimate Antichrist
3. Gods of Hate
4. Atrocious Crimes
5. Revealing Cruelty
6. Full of Hatred
7. Seas of Blood
8. Near Death experience
9. Sublime Extermination
10. Agonising World
Another example of tracks the group Morbid Angel (translated as Malaikat Jahanam) reflect the following:
1. Invocation/Chapel Of Ghouls
2. Unholy Blasphemies
3. Angel Of Disease
4. Azagthoth
5. The Gate/Lord Of All Fevers and Plague
6. Hell Spawn
7. Abominations
8. Demon Seed
9. Welcome To Hell
Source: Anus
Culture of trash?
Death and Black Metal Malaysian music represents the advancement of the development of "trash culture" that continue to plague society that is already plagued with all forms of corruption. This "Metal" culture do not have a sense of authenticity nor peaceful and liberating dimension to its foundation. It preys upon those who themselves are lost through the social and educational system � those who had fallen through the cracks of an unfairly meritocratic system that often put the death spell on children's intelligence.
The proliferation of the culture of trash is one way for consumer capitalism to divide, conquer, and victimise our youth. It is a by-product of our open-sky policy and largely our five-year economic plans that cultivate all forms of underground culture and subculture � cultures of resistance that actually do not add value to the advancement of an ethical civilisation.
Our society will arrive at a juncture whereby the elders are no more to be respected, the "demonic aspects" of music such as in Black and Death Metal will continue to shape and hegemonise public discourse and the extreme excesses of modernisation will rear their ugly heads and adorn our mental and cultural landscape. The vehicle for this path of "progress" will be the economic and political ideology that subdivides people into "post-industrial tribes" ready to be consumed by market forces.
We have therefore developed a set of "subcultures" that are trashy in nature � from the way we conduct our politics to how we shop and play to the form of leisure we engage in. These are consequences of the corruption of the political, economic, and moral fibres that are designed by those who owns the means of political-economic and socio-cultural production and control.
We, as well as our youth of today and tomorrow are the recipients of the "gifts of this Malaysian nation of plenty" � including the youth that are school drop-outs, at risks, incarcerated and those who are enjoying the glories of demonic music.
Only re-education and the re-thinking of our cultural policy will help devise ways to design strategies that will bring us closer to a utopia based on the true meaning of republicanism and socialism that bring meaning to the word "humanism".
The world of many of our dispossessed Malay youth is a world of metal made of black and dead souls. They must start listening to kronchong, ghazal, and the Indian ragas! They must start looking at the larger picture of oppression and dehumanisation. Or begin with New Age, Baroque, or Classical music for relaxation and the enhancement of the capacities of the cerebral cortex.
But who will guide them through this siratul-mustaqim or the noble or peaceful path of human evolution? Are they being exploited by others, in the name of creativity and revolution they do not yet quite understand? While the lyrics sound revolutionary, the means of performing them manifests insanity. Is this brand of youth "protest movement" going haywire and being capitalized by those who owns the means of controlling their wild and savage sense of creativity?
Educators, unite � you have nothing to lose except your own children and grandchildren to the chains of the Black/Death metallists. Time for PETRONAS to help finance bands and orchestras in our public schools before our youth produce more demonic music. |
Your comments please? What do you think about this?
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rishi
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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im not against black metal.
but if one think its starting to influence them to do wrong things, they should know where to stop n control.
if u r not strong enuf to control, then better avoid it all together. |
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Kon_Roy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| rishi wrote: | im not against black metal.
but if one think its starting to influence them to do wrong things, they should know where to stop n control.
if u r not strong enuf to control, then better avoid it all together. |
yup...this is stupid...lol....black metal ??...even Metallica will start laughing if they hear wht kids these days are doing and listening to....
Im a big fan of metallica...the GOD of all metal...I listen to their songs everyday...but am I turning into a maniac ??....lol......
I even headbang whn im alone and listening to Metallica...I find it relaxing...for real...after a session....it really relaxes our mind..at least mine.... 
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MIRUGAM
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Music is something very beautiful and it is a way of life to many. Music has a major impact on people all over the world. Music has been existent in this world for centuries. You can find music in all walks of life. There�s music for every mood. There is music in every occasion such as a wedding and even at a funeral. Even animals and plants love music.
Music helps a person to relax. It also helps to motivate people. But can the same music become destructive?
Our favourite music helps us to feel good and open our minds. Music does play a crucial role in everybody�s life.
But i personally don't like black metal music... they are too crude for my taste and the lyrics are getting very wild.
Anyway, i don't think that music can influence anyone's life. |
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rishi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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music can change our mood if we realy follow it.
sad, happy, excited....
some love songs makes ppl smile. the same song can make a few cry.
black metal could be - diff effect on diff individual perhaps |
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